Help us avoid having the address of these lists wind up on SPAMmers' lists.
Google's SPAM filters are very good,
but they still miss a lot.
My experience is that we can expect roughly a message a day to be missed by Google's filters once the SPAMmers get this address. Because the list managers monitor messages from non-members, these should not actually get to the list, but they do create a workload for the list managers
(For further description, see
If you must forward a message from the list,
please edit out the email address of the group.
If you don't know how to do this in your mail program,
please do not forward messages directly,
but cut-and-paste the contents of the message on the group
into an entirely new message.
Avoid cross-posting of messages
("Cross-posting" is when you send the same message to multiple lists).
Cross-posting suggests that the message may not have been specific
enough to Barron Park to warrant posting to the list.
Cross-posted messages have a higher chance of winding up on
a publicly accessible web site
(and hence likely to be harvested by a SPAMmer's robot).
Recognize that these are large lists,
and demonstrate courtesy to the membership by
taking the time to compose and review a message before
sending it to the list.
Please read advice on Etiquette.
Note on moderated lists:
The software used when the lists were hosted on bpaonline.org
allowed the moderator to annotate and edit messages to fix omissions
and various problems (for example, formating)
without having to send it back to the original author for revision.
However, the software provided on Google Groups essentially limits the moderator
to being able to accept or reject a submission.
Consequently, if you don't take adequate time to compose a message,
expect significant delays because the moderator will need to describe to you
what the problem was rather than simply fixing it.
Announcements of public events, city meetings, BPA meetings,
BPA announcements, alerts about vandalism and other crimes,
alerts for lost/found pets,
and alerts on other problems of general interest.
This list is not for discussion of issues
(the reason for it being moderated).
Nor is it for generic announcements about the broader community
that have adequate distribution channels
(for example, the local newspapers).
Subscription:Semi-open All residents of the BPA neighborhood are encouraged to subscribe to this list.
There are also a range of other subscribers,
including public officials, newspaper reporters,
and residents of other neighborhoods who redistribute messages
that are also appropriate for their neighborhoods.
This list is only for Barron Park and Barron Park Association
Announcements and news not carried on the bpa-news
list is appropriate here,
as is discussion of issues
(within bounds: see Etiquette)
This list includes some people from outside the neighborhood:
some city officials (council and staff),
leaders from other neighborhoods, and former residents.
Recent membership has ranged between 150-220 addresses.
This list handles any other messages likely to be of interest
to Barron Park residents.
Examples: requests for house-sitters & nannies,
house repair advice,
houses or apartments for rent in Barron Park,
etc. Note: This list is not
for houses for sale, both those with an agent and those for sale by the owner.
The reason: There are so many real estate agents that the list could easily be swamped
with such mailings plus
conventional advertising outlets provide needed visibility.
The number of postings on this list tends to be low.
This list tends to also get messages that are more appropriate
for the other two lists (bpa-news and bpa-issues)
because various individuals send to whatever is "close enough."
Purpose: The objective is to match up people in Barron Park looking for short-term jobs with other people in Barron Park seeking someone to do work for them. The types of jobs include yard cleanup, house maintenance, pet walking or pet care, office support and filing, etc., either one time or on-going.
Subscription:By Invitation. Membership open only to Members of Barron Park Association: They may go to the Group web page and request an invitation to join the Group
Strawberry Hill is the triangular parcel behind the Gunn High School athletic fields.
It is currently unused and covered with invasive grasses and other plants.
A group of Barron Park residents and other interested people are trying to work
with (and encourage) the School District to allow cleanup
and revegetation with native plants.
This group is used for communication between those volunteers.
Improving the small unused plot of City-owned land between Matadero Avenue and Matadero Creek across from Josina.
It is managed by City of Palo Alto Utilities because it is the location of an emergency well.
Current hope is to restore the benches and perhaps do some minor landscaping.
Hosting: In January 2008, the BPA email lists
were transferred to Google Groups,
having previously been hosted at bpaonline.org.
Background info: Email to BPA-News1 of 2007-12-17
Messages sent to these lists after the transition to Google Groups
will be archived as part of that facility.
Messages sent prior to the transition are archived at
(not clickable to try to obscure from the robots used by SPAMmers).
Directory Listing: Not listed.
Having your group listed in the Directory is an option.
However, doing so
would seem to increase the probability/speed
of the email address being discovered by SPAMmers:
the group name is also its email address.
Consequently, we chose not to be listed.
Note: for further description, see
Terminology used in List Descriptions
The email address of this list is GroupName@googlegroups.com
If you use "whitelisting" (opposite of blacklisting)
or you use the addresses in the headers of messages to redirect messages
into email folders,
messages from this email list have this address
in the "To" header
(the address in the "From" header is that of the person
who sent the message).
The home page for the group is
The web site for the group provides an archive of past messages
and provides the simplest means for managing your subscription to the email list.
However, to access the web pages, you will have to create an account within Google Groups
using your email address.
This is the name of this email list when it was hosted at bpaonline.org,
that is, the name just before the transition to Google Groups.
Subject line prefix:
This prefix is added to the subject line of each message sent to this list.
People find it useful in visually scanning their incoming mail
and for setting up automated filters.
If this entry includes "%d",
that is a placeholder for the sequence number of the message.
There are virtually no restrictions on who can subscribe.
Membership in the Barron Park Association is encouraged,
but not required, in order to be on any of these lists.
The lists are intended as neighborhood communication systems.
We ask people to request being added to the list because:
This setting causes new members to be prompted to supply
We ask for basic contact information so that
If messages start bouncing from your email address,
we can inform you of the problem.
Many members (households) have multiple email addresses and
have supplied different ones over the years.
When complications arise, this can help us resolve
For people who are not residents (current, former or prospective)
of the Barron Park neighborhood,
we are curious about how many of you there are and
what additional purposes this list is used.
Fully open subscription would allow a miscreant to subscribe to the list
and then send an email blast to the members.
The minor additional step (and delay) of getting formal approval
provides a "circuit breaker"
should something appear to be wrong.
Note: If you are a member of the group and want to replace your
current email address (or include an additional one),
you can issue an "invitation" for that new address
from your current one (rather than submitting a request to the group's manager).
By Invitation: Typically when you become eligible to join the group,
you will be sent an invitation, but you may request an invitation—a feature of the Group software—if you miss or misplace your invitation, or believe that you should have gotten one.
Appropriate only for the participants in the related activity.
As a participant, you will typically be added when you become known to the
leaders of the activity.
If you are interested in becoming a participant,
you may request that you be added to the list.
Closed: Membership restricted to the specified group.
The group is intended primarily for messages posted by members for other members.
However, there are exceptions that we want to accommodate:
Non-members occasionally have messages that are appropriate for the list,
and allowing them to post directly saves the step of them
either temporarily becoming a member (so they can post)
or having a member post the message for them
(undesirable because replies go to the member who did the posting
rather than the true author).
Many members have multiple email addresses (for example, home and work).
The email list software determines whether or not a submitted message
is from a member by comparing the sender's email address to
the email addresses of the members.
Consequently, if a person sends a message to the list from
a different email address than the one under which they subscribed,
the message gets labeled as coming from a non-member.
Advice: If you find yourself submitting
from multiple addresses,
you can avoid having the messages held
subscribing to the list under each of those addresses.
But you probably don't want each of those email addresses receiving
their own copy of messages sent to the list.
No problem: You can edit the settings of those additional email addresses
to not receive mail from the group (Note: you have to login to the group
under each of those email addresses).
The current setting for the group is to have messages from non-members
held until approved by one of the moderators (managers) of the group.
If the group starts getting hit by so much SPAM that
this become onerous for the moderators,
we may change the setting - with no advance notice -
to simply reject submissions from non-members.
Only members of the group can post messages.
Recognize that the software determines membership
based upon your email address.
If you have multiple email addresses and
submit a message from one that is not a member of the list,
that message will be rejected as coming from a non-member.
See description of
(above) for information on how to associate multiple email
addresses with a single Google account.
Anyone may post an appropriate
message to the list.
Messages are automatically forwarded
to members of the list.
Messages are distributed to the members of the list
only after approval by a moderator.
The moderator may edit messages,
or reject them on basis of appropriateness,
Different lists can have very different levels
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